David S. Goyer Hates Strong Females and Comic Fans


As anyone that’s read this blog or is friends with me on Facebook could tell you, I have not been a fan of the Man of Steel sequel for almost as long as it’s been public knowledge. I think 99% of the casting has been awful. I’m not a fan of the concept of using DC stalwarts Superman and Batman as the launching pad for the lesser-known properties, and believe it shows an absolute distrust in their own characters to not give them stand alone movies before teaming them up with the big guns. I’ve feared that the plot will get bloated with trying to explain why Bats and Sups need to work together plus give back stories on Wonder Woman, Cyborg, and whatever other new characters they throw in. I think the title is silly and sounds like what the video game based on the movie would be called. All of this made me extremely skeptical of the project.

Batman v Superman

Then I read the interview that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice writer David S. Goyer gave in a podcast Tuesday…

When asked about the long-time Marvel superheroine She-Hulk, he went on a misogynistic diatribe claiming that she was created to simply be The Hulk’s sex slave. Here’s the conversation (Craig Mazin is the host of the podcast) *As I strive to keep my blog as PG as possible, I’ve semi-censored the expletives.*:

Craig Mazin: The real name for She-Hulk was Slut-Hulk. That was the whole point. Let’s just make this green chick with enormous boobs. And she’s Hulk strong but not Hulk massive, right? … She’s real lean, stringy…

David S. Goyer: She’s still pretty chunky. She was like Chyna from the WWE.

Mazin: The whole point of She-Hulk was just to appeal sexistly to ten-year-old boys. Worked on me.

Goyer: I have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It’s like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the sh*t kicked out of them every day… And so then they created She-Hulk, right? Who was still smart… I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could f*ck if you were Hulk, you know what I’m saying? … She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it’s like if I’m going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let’s create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could f*ck.


Jennifer Walters (She-Hulk’s secret identity) is Bruce Banner’s (The Hulk) cousin! She gains her powers when after being shot, she requires a blood transfusion, and Bruce donates his. This gives Jennifer a portion of The Hulk’s strength, speed, and durability, but allows her to keep her intelligence…she’s a lawyer, by the way, not just some bimbo.


For those that don’t know, She-Hulk was co-created by Stan Lee. So Goyer basically just called the greatest creative mind and most respected name in the history of comic books a pervert. Classy move Goyer. Lee actually created She-Hulk to be an intelligent, independent female superhero. But I guess that is synonymous with “slut” in David S. Goyer’s eyes. Is this really the man you want writing for a strong female character like Wonder Woman? Will she just be a sex object for Superman?

Stan Lee Awesome

Kudos to Stan for sticking up for himself. He responded by saying that only a “nut job” would ever think that She-Hulk was created to be an object of lust for The Hulk. And about Jennifer Walters’ being beautiful and curvy, he replied, “Show me a superheorine that isn’t.”


Goyer was later asked about Justice League mainstay Martian Manhunter:

Goyer: Well, he hasn’t been rebooted but he’s a mainstay in the Justice League. He can’t be f*cking called the Martian Manhunter because that’s goofy. He can be called Manhunter… The whole deal with Martian Manhunter is he’s an alien living amongst us… So he comes down to Earth and decides, unlike Superman who already exists in the world now, that he’s just going to be a homicide detective… So instead of using super-powers and mind-reading and like, oh, I could figure out if the President’s lying or whatever, he just decides to disguise himself as a human homicide detective. Dare to dream!


This makes me wonder if the man has ever actually read a comic containing J’onn J’onzz, or if he just read about him on Wikipedia. He acts as if helping people as a detective is in someway beneath a superhero or a waste of his abilities. All this coming from the man that wrote Man of Steel…where Clark Kent starts out as a fisherman and eventually becomes a news reporter. Apparently, these are infinitely more admirable and honorable jobs than detective. And it’s not as if Martian Manhunter simply disguises himself as a human and never uses his powers until he decides to become a superhero. He uses his abilities while working as a homicide detective!

Clark Kent: Super-Powered Hitchhiker

To top it all off, Goyer attacks his own fan base. Using outdated stereotypes about comic book fans to imply that all of us are virgins…real original. Basically, all of us are Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory. I don’t watch that show due to its stereotyping of geeks, and now we have the writer of major comic book movies doing the exact same thing.


David S. Goyer: The Enemy

Goyer can take a place right next to Alan Moore on the “bite the hand that feeds” list. Both have insulted the adoring comic fans that made them famous/relevant. Sadly, I was a fan of the work of both men until they decided to take pot shots at me and those like me. So with all this now brought to light, I implore all of those reading this to boycott anything and everything comic-related that David S. Goyer is attached to. He’s told us what he thinks of us…I think it’s time to show him what we think of him.



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